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	<title>Comments on: Disagreeing with TUAW and the new &#8216;OSS manifesto&#8217;</title>
	<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61</link>
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		<title>By: Kaveman&#8217;s Daily Feed of Informative Blogs &#187; Disagreeing with TUAW and the new ‘OSS manifesto’</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3072</link>
		<author>Kaveman&#8217;s Daily Feed of Informative Blogs &#187; Disagreeing with TUAW and the new ‘OSS manifesto’</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3072</guid>
					<description>[...] Original post by Brian [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Original post by Brian [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: RazorSharp iPods &#38; Raw Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Care and feeding of open source programmers</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3231</link>
		<author>RazorSharp iPods &#38; Raw Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Care and feeding of open source programmers</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3231</guid>
					<description>[...] Brian Ganninger of Growl and Adium fame has posted on his strong disagreement with the HandBrake [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Brian Ganninger of Growl and Adium fame has posted on his strong disagreement with the HandBrake [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: rhester</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3633</link>
		<author>rhester</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3633</guid>
					<description>It would seem that you don't speak for Adium developers, either:

http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?t=6656

Rodney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that you don&#8217;t speak for Adium developers, either:</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?t=6656" rel="nofollow">http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?t=6656</a></p>
<p>Rodney</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3638</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 16:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3638</guid>
					<description>Really? Because I could have swore the project manager and lead developer chimed in on that thread you linked and agreed. Perhaps you should read all the entries, including the ones where community members agree with my points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? Because I could have swore the project manager and lead developer chimed in on that thread you linked and agreed. Perhaps you should read all the entries, including the ones where community members agree with my points.</p>
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		<title>By: rhester</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3647</link>
		<author>rhester</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 03:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3647</guid>
					<description>Brian,

I think you're missing the irony here.

Your own words:

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B) Last I checked, we wrote and designed the software and it's our right to make the determinations of what goes in.

C) We've detailed a full plugin API and continue to do so, as well as encourage and help plugin authors as much as possible. We (the Adium development team) aren't likely to take our time on such a project, and it will not be in the release, as indicated. That said, it's not we are actively stopping someone from doing so, just not us. It's open source, have a party Smile 

...

That's fine, I recognize others don't have my gifts - that's why I volunteer them. That does not, however, give anyone (leads and managers excepting) the right to determine how I employ that donated time.

=====

It is quite interesting how much your words echo the ones I wrote in my so-called 'manifesto'.  In fact, we essentially said the same thing, though there was no accusation of "religious zealotry" in the HandBrake thread.

I won't be responding again, but you're welcome to continue to reply if you like.  If you choose not to see the duplicity in your harangue above, I don't really have the time or interest to help you with it - but I'm at least glad to see I don't stand alone.  We are far more alike than you may wish to admit.

Rodney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the irony here.</p>
<p>Your own words:</p>
<p>=====</p>
<p>B) Last I checked, we wrote and designed the software and it&#8217;s our right to make the determinations of what goes in.</p>
<p>C) We&#8217;ve detailed a full plugin API and continue to do so, as well as encourage and help plugin authors as much as possible. We (the Adium development team) aren&#8217;t likely to take our time on such a project, and it will not be in the release, as indicated. That said, it&#8217;s not we are actively stopping someone from doing so, just not us. It&#8217;s open source, have a party Smile </p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine, I recognize others don&#8217;t have my gifts - that&#8217;s why I volunteer them. That does not, however, give anyone (leads and managers excepting) the right to determine how I employ that donated time.</p>
<p>=====</p>
<p>It is quite interesting how much your words echo the ones I wrote in my so-called &#8216;manifesto&#8217;.  In fact, we essentially said the same thing, though there was no accusation of &#8220;religious zealotry&#8221; in the HandBrake thread.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t be responding again, but you&#8217;re welcome to continue to reply if you like.  If you choose not to see the duplicity in your harangue above, I don&#8217;t really have the time or interest to help you with it - but I&#8217;m at least glad to see I don&#8217;t stand alone.  We are far more alike than you may wish to admit.</p>
<p>Rodney</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3648</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 04:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3648</guid>
					<description>Rodney, 

Thank you for demonstrating your closed-mindedness by removing yourself from the discussion once you feel you've proven your point and have the 'high' ground. I'll take a page from that book myself and not waste the time replying to the 'content' of your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney, </p>
<p>Thank you for demonstrating your closed-mindedness by removing yourself from the discussion once you feel you&#8217;ve proven your point and have the &#8216;high&#8217; ground. I&#8217;ll take a page from that book myself and not waste the time replying to the &#8216;content&#8217; of your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3649</link>
		<author>Brian</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 05:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-3649</guid>
					<description>Rodney,

I find it fascinating that you constantly close yourself off from public discussion. You closed comments on your manifesto shortly after you posted it (despite saying you wanted to leave the topic open, and hopefully realizing it was inflammatory) and now that I've debated you in public you post your 'authoritative' answer and withdraw again. That illustrates my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney,</p>
<p>I find it fascinating that you constantly close yourself off from public discussion. You closed comments on your manifesto shortly after you posted it (despite saying you wanted to leave the topic open, and hopefully realizing it was inflammatory) and now that I&#8217;ve debated you in public you post your &#8216;authoritative&#8217; answer and withdraw again. That illustrates my point.</p>
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		<title>By: apple &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Care and feeding of open source programmers</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-8272</link>
		<author>apple &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Care and feeding of open source programmers</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-8272</guid>
					<description>[...] Brian Ganninger of Growl and Adium fame has posted on his strong disagreement with the HandBrake [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Brian Ganninger of Growl and Adium fame has posted on his strong disagreement with the HandBrake [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Community development: all communities are not the same &#124; Commercial Open Source Software</title>
		<link>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-8956</link>
		<author>Community development: all communities are not the same &#124; Commercial Open Source Software</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.infinitenexus.com/blog/?p=61#comment-8956</guid>
					<description>[...] can see here many disagreeing on that, but I believe there is no doubt that any author can choose his/her community, choosing not to have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] can see here many disagreeing on that, but I believe there is no doubt that any author can choose his/her community, choosing not to have [&#8230;]</p>
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